Suggestion for new Font-Dialog

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Hello,
here is a screenshot of the KFontDialog and a modiefied one in the front which could be a improvement for KDE users:)
please this is only a suggestion, and a idea for a better usability.

The file attached contains the .ui file

br philipp
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16 years ago

sorry, now the real .ui is in the zip file

today, after watching discussions, i changed some minor things:) please take a look at the attributes listbox at the right side!

etriaph

16 years ago

First of all, the font dialog you propose is great. It's clean, organized, compact and simple. For 85% of end users this is the dialog to use.

Secondly, I've had a long standing idea about how to do fonts in KDE, just never really finalized anything. I think the user should be able to configure whether or not they want to see Type1 fonts in their display, Xft fonts in their display, or any other denomination. It'd be nice to say "I want all my font dialogs to only show me my anti-aliased Xft rendered fonts". Having to scroll through all of the fonts that aren't Xft rendered to find the ones that are is a pain in the butt.

Lastly, it would be nice to see the font dialog have a toggle (based on the previous statement) somewhere, perhaps in another tab, which swtiches between Type1, Xft, Abisource, etc. And the default state would be set in Preferences -> Look And Feel -> Fonts

So ya. :)

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philippfrenzelde

16 years ago

yes, i agree that it is not nessecary to minimize a dialog, but as the dialog i build was done in the qt-designer the preview has these options as default:)

even u are right in saying there could be still some more improvements. but, please don

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nihilist

16 years ago

I think it is unnecessary clutter to have two widgets setting the font size. I don't understand why there should be need to minimize a dialog window (if indeed you suggest this), it should be quite sufficient to have it be possible to just let other windows gain focus even when a dialog is open. Furthermore, since text can't simultaneously be raised and lowered (are those the words used in english for text that is half a row above and below the "normal" text, respectively?) these two options should be radioboxes (the round ones that only allow you to choose one). Finally, the KDE color choosing default dialog is really, really good, so keeping a button for reaching it is a good idea, IMHO. I agree that the bold and italics options should be checkboxes, that the preview should be closest to the bottom and that there should be an icon indicating that a font is TrueType, however.

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guru

16 years ago

I would prefer radio buttons like ...

o raised
o normal
o lowered

Checkboxes suggest the possibility that all boxes can be checked in the same time.

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elektroschock

15 years ago

Don't limit yourself to the Win-Widget world

We can easily imagine a mix of a radio button and a checkbox.

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HandleBars

16 years ago

Some will most likely complain about the propriety of such submissions on this site.

I, on the other hand, not only like this user's particular suggestion, but also appreciate the larger idea of such usability enhancements.

This posting is done by someone who not only understands UI layout, but by someone who understands that 'KDE-Look' doesn't just mean wallpapers and dacing babies.

Thanks for this type of input. Hopefully others will follow and the KDE group will take notice when the submissions are reasonable.

Wade

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ian

16 years ago

..would be improved. Indeed! A good suggestion! Have you already contacted somebody from the KDE Team?

ian

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philippfrenzelde

16 years ago

Hello,

I currently try to find out who is responsible for that part in the KDE-Team.
I had contact to Craig Dummond, but he is responsible for the FontPart in the controll center...
so he knows a lot of fonts on kde and X, but he is not the one who is responsible for the KFontDialog or the class from QT.
But he told me that it could be possible to have the following for types seperated:
X11 - for non-xft scaleable fonts, and non TrueType/Type1 xft fonts
Bitmap - for non-scaleable fonts
TrueType
Type1

Well this is much more then i expected:)

ok, hope to find some more contacts

br philipp

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marm

16 years ago

to kde-usability@mail.kde.org

This mailing list is where all the KDE usability experts and engineers hang out. If you like doing this usability work (it's very important) you might want to subscribe here:

http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability

I really like your improvements to the font dialog, although I fear that the code required to distinguish between bitmap, Type1 and TrueType fonts (for labelling them like in Windows) might be a little complicated - I don't think Qt has any way of communicating this to an application currently.

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16 years ago

sorry, now the real .ui is in the zip file

today, after watching discussions, i changed some minor things:) please take a look at the attributes listbox at the right side!

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