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Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen Hinckley, United Kingdom, Europe
KDE 3.x Splash Screens
Wallpaper Other
Icon Sub-Sets
KDE 3 Color Schemes
KDE 3.5 Themes
KDM3 Themes
Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements
Wallpapers KDE Plasma
The Farm Splash

KDE 3.x Splash Screens 7 comments

Score 50.0%
May 04 2004
Well, the fact that it's a splash screen for KDE makes it worthy of a post here :) And very nice work it is :) Not that the icons make sense, but who said they have to ;) (And don't show me the splash guidelines you evil rulemongering people you! ;) ). - May 04 2004

Various KDE Stuff 44 comments

by aivs
Score 50.0%
May 03 2004
I still think that the area at the bottom where it says "root" now is too small for a meaningful text...

Apart from that, it looks great :) - May 03 2004
Right, sent it :) - Apr 30 2004
Again, of course, I have to comment on the colours you have chosen ;) This time, however, it's more positive, because the way you have done it here is viable from a programatical point of view: You can use the list background and list alternative background to do this (in this case, of course, it would mean that you had a background in lists that was standard blue and alternative yellow, but that's a whole different discussion to get into ;) ).

I'm still not so sure about the way you have chosen to do the bottom, though. It's just the very small space available for the icon text... With the amount of space there, you won't even have space to write Documents (there is hardly room to write mnt). Why not just let it be as such, with the description text still only showing up on mouseover:

....description text....
. [o] . [o] . [o] . [o] . - Apr 29 2004
Pass on the two last ones, unfortunately, but for the first one about what to put in the free place.

Why not do what you did originally: Put a Recently used applications or Most used applications list there? Just without the coloured backgrounds, which made it look a bit silly. - Apr 29 2004
I do use it quite a lot, as do most people I know who use KDE, simply because I use a lot more more than the three programs in my quick-launch. I do not wish to clutter my system with unnessecary icons. So, from that point of view, no matter if others use it or not is not the case, the K Menu is a fact, and why not make it the most usable it can be? Anything else would be rather silly. - Apr 29 2004
If you in stead of instantly saying "XP iS Teh Sux0rz" actually look at this, it is not a copy of the XP menu. This re-design has been done with usability in mind (read the writeups on the first newMenu to see what I mean), and is thus not a copy of the XP one, which I totally agree is amazingly pants. - Apr 29 2004
Maybe you should kill those pastel colours under the user menu/most used apps... They would be impossible to create in a sane way (as in something that would fit with colour themes), and would thus have to be hardcoded, something which is very much not in the KDE idea of theming. This also goes for the colours under the bottom parts (icons and logout/lock commands alike), you may want to find another way to signify them... (maybe a selected background with the text simply being put in the middle (it would also be easier from a programming perspective))

But after you put the description on the bottom icons, it hit me, maybe it would make sense to make it very highly configurable. If nothing else with a set of check boxes in the config dialog to select what should be in there, much like the Optional submenus in the current K-Menu configuration panel? - Apr 29 2004
I like what I see this time much better than before :)

I would still say, however, that the left side (where you have the question mark now) ought to be what is currently at the top of the menu (most used or last used programs, an arbitrary number of 1 to 20 items, where here it would make sense to have at least 10, as opposed to the current 5).

The icons at the bottom, while a great piece of eyecandy ;), would make more sense to me, if it was a text-box (this is possible, I might add, simply using the current KPopupMenu) where you could write a command to run... Rather like my suggestion in the other newMenu idea...

Recent . . . . | . . . Applications
(|) \ Run XXXXXXXXX [o] / (-)

(|) being logout (shown the way you have it there, to show it's distinguished from the Run section)
[o] meaning run stuff in the XXXXXX textbox
Run being clickable (bring up the minicli)
(-) being lock (shown the way you have it there, to show it's distinguished from the Run section) - Apr 28 2004
Better Desktop Dropshadows

Various Stuff 21 comments

by abby
Score 50.0%
Dec 27 2004
...there was actually a GUI tool for defining the shadows scheduled for 3.1, but it was removed because it would only clutter up the dialogs even more... Perhaps an option would be a button next to the Enable shadows that says "Edit shadow type" or somesuch, with the old shadow editing dialog showing up on a click there? Just an idea :)

And, by the way, great work with figuring the different shadows out :) - May 03 2004
Flat Slack

KDE Plasma Screenshots 4 comments

by The-Q
Score 50.0%
Apr 27 2004
Your comment about the Reinhardt style :) Please look at and reply either there or (preferably) by e-mail :) - Apr 29 2004
KWin drop shadow patches

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements 134 comments

Score 50.0%
Apr 29 2004
And, I suppose, something which isn't a hack... When KDE supports RGBA visuals as provided by the fd.o xserver (which already has a built-in facility for this behaviour), then it becomes viable. Otherwise the flickering gives us the obvious problem that it seems a hack, and thus unprofessional. I love this patch, and find it a great piece of eyecandy, but the problem is simply, that it won't work very well in the official distribution because of it's obvious 'hackishness', so to speak. - Apr 29 2004

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements 27 comments

by aivs
Score 50.0%
Apr 27 2004
Hence my suggestion to move the recent items to the top left, and the other applications to the right (and the other way around in RTL environments), so while the eye ends up in the corner where it will start reading (it doesn't start in the middle, it starts where the first letter of the first word on a normal page of text begins), the mouse isn't far away from any of the two. - Apr 28 2004
Please, if you do IRC, don't hesitate to skip by #slicker on at some point (now would be fine, you seem to be online ;) ) and talk with us about it :) Slicker is accepting plugins, and though it doesn't have a Cardstack yet, it will show the content using the Slider (which was the first feature implemented this time around). But as I said, please do come around and have a chat :) - Apr 27 2004
Slicker, I can assure you, is not dead. We have actually from the very beginning been considering options as to how to control the user's options, and one of the best ways, it seems to us, is that the desktop as a start should be locked down (i.e. you cannot randomly change the layout by a slip of the mouse, something which could be potentially easy in Slicker because of the large headers on the cards), so that you actually have to unlock the desktop to make changes.

This consideration could fairly easily be translated into the current KDE base, by using Kiosk and as standard lock down some slight things that the 'normal user' (as we like to call those who don't actually want to fiddle with their desktop and in stead just use it) won't use, such as mouse-moving the Kicker and other such options.

A problem with the mimickry, as you put it, is not so much that it's mimickry, but that it's not perfect. The problem is that users will sit down and think "Oh, this is Windows, I'll do things in the same way I did it on my old machine" or whatever, and fail because things are not done the same way in KDE as they are in Windows (or MacOS for that matter, all you Liquid lovers ;) ). I believe it was Suse who first discovered this in a usability study they did a while ago... - Apr 27 2004
Right, now that nonsense is out of the way, let's be constructive.

The idea is not all bad, though I think that having two rows of icons like that can be confusing at times...

Maybe in stead have the icons as you have them in the left, then a set of actual menus going out from the right side, which could be for example:

* Applications
* Settings
* Bookmarks
* Recent documents

You get the picture, basically what's already an option, just moved around a bit ;)

About why not the combo box: Remember, you should never force the user to click more than they actually have to for usability's sake. I.e. in this case don't just randomly pop up the K menu, because it would get in the way more often than not, but do pop up submenus).

At the bottom, why make use of QT's very nice menu features and actually give the user a box to write commands in, in stead of having to have to open a Run command... dialog (this should always be an option, for more advanced stuff like running as a different user and so on), such as bellow:

Logout... Lock screen

Where Run... is clickable, XXXXXX is a text field and [o] is a button with the gear on it (standard KDE sign for Run).

Then, under that (menu separator bars above and bellow the Run section), have on the left side Logout... (that's where it's been always), then on the right side have Lock screen.

Of course, all the layouts here should be mirrored (left->right, right->left) in a RTL environment, for obvious reasons.

But, for other ideas on redesigns for the K Menu (remember, we don't call it a Start Menu, or an Apple Menu for that matter), have a look at the Slicker website at where there are a couple of interesting ideas in the mockups section. - Apr 27 2004
The Reinhardt Style (formely Slicker)

KDE 3.5 Themes 97 comments

Score 50.0%
Nov 26 2004
Hehe, ok :) I will do my best to re-implement the old style tabs as an option into version 0.7 (hopefully using a configuration dialog...).

But what exactly is what you don't like? If it's the drop-shadow, that can be turned off already. If it's the background colour, I will do that as an option, along with an option for making the background tabs lower by one pixel (default) or not... Anything else you would like to see as an option? :) - Apr 27 2004
I have noticed it myself, and I have until now not found the reason... If anyone does find it, please do post it here :) - Apr 22 2004
Thank you ever so much, this has bugged me forever and ever! Just uploaded the fixed version :) - Apr 22 2004
Actually, you would be most welcome to do this, if you would, then send a diff to me... Also, if you are able to put together a simple control panel for KDE 3.2, this would be very kewl indeed :) - Apr 04 2004

Icon Sub-Sets 149 comments

Score 50.0%
Jun 18 2018
I've already posted comments about the naming of dock icons on b.k.o, and the problem is mainly, that there isn't actually any defined scheme for naming dock icons. I would love to see that happen, at some point, preferably before 3.3 :P

And nope, I don't think you copied my icons, you were simply inspired by, amongst others, my set :) This is how work is done, and well done :) - Apr 27 2004
None taken, see bellow ;) - Apr 26 2004
Feel free to ravage through Reinhardt and find the icons I've done in there :) But I totally agree that it is silly that it should be that difficult to change the dock icons (they are really in your face, and it's annoying when the icon sets are so different, to have icons differing in style). I've currently only got the KOrganizer Alarm Daemon missing, do tell if you find out how to fix that one :)

As for this being prettier than Reinhardt, I suspect most people will say that, and I for one would probably tend to agree, on some level at least :) Reinhardt really is very, very minimalist, where you've tried to create something slightly less, well, fringe ;) Nice work, I will have to download and look too, when I have the bandwidth to spare *kicks stupid 5gb a month limit* :) - Apr 26 2004
Desktop Icon Grouping

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements 17 comments

Score 50.0%
Apr 24 2004
Indeed I am talking about the upper left corner :) Actually, from a programming point of view, if it is to be drawn like that, I think that it would actually be the easiest shape to make (putting the icons in a circle), because you would only have to calculate a simple vector from the centre of the parent icon to a point x*(y/z) on that circle where
x=icon number
y=circumfence of the circle
z=total number of icons

...Which, thinking about it, would be the exact way you would do it with any other shape... Hmm... Interesting prospects :) Now if only I had the C++ skills to hack at KDesktop ;) - Apr 26 2004
I just posted something to the kde-usability mailing list regarding something else (dragging windows to/from other desktops...), but on the same mockup there are some ideas about showing the contents of a pile of icons (which might be made by making a folder containing a .folder with a Type=Iconpile or somesuch?). The mockup is found at - Apr 26 2004

Utilities 25 comments

Score 50.0%
Mar 13 2007
Right, the thoughts are as follows:

1. Ogg support
2. JuK integration

These two would be a great addition, and the last one would be very welcome (there is a wishlist item on b.k.o about JuK's non-capabilities in this exact area ;) ). As the guy above said, nice work :) - Apr 26 2004
Grass is green

KDE Plasma Screenshots 3 comments

Score 50.0%
Apr 25 2004
Kinda like the Windows background, but far better :) Actually has artistic value, this one ;) Done by some guy on deviantart :) - Apr 26 2004
Kontact Splash

KDE 3.x Splash Screens 5 comments

Score 50.0%
Apr 24 2004
OK, so it turned out I would get home before Sunday, but here ya go, whacha think? :) - Apr 24 2004
You are so very right, I will do this as soon as I get home on Sunday :) Thanks for the comments and suggestions, people! - Apr 23 2004
Reinhardt Curve

Wallpaper Other 3 comments

Score 50.0%
Apr 21 2004
Actually, any gradient is what colour you have on your desktop :) It's all transparent like, so it blends with what you have on your desktop :) And thanks :) - Apr 22 2004
FTP Monitor (KDE 3)

System Software 45 comments

Score 50.0%
Jun 11 2006
That's kewl :) I was just pondering wether or not it would be supported :) Good luck with the exams! - Apr 21 2004
This seemed like the best place to post it :) Some distributions (such as the one I use, surprise, surprise ;) ) use ProFTPd. When will the FTP Monitor (which really seems like a great program to me, thumbs up!) support this? :) - Apr 21 2004

Chat & Messenging 100 comments

by mattr
Score 63.3%
Jul 13 2006
Buddy icons are supported for some protocols, but it's not quite as stable as you might wish it to be. But it's getting there :) - Apr 21 2004
Kopete will probably never support skinning, because of a political decision in the Kopete team to make a 100% KDE UI instant messaging client. This means, that it follows standard KDE behaviour all the way down to the mouse single/doublt click in the list, and also that it simply uses the standard UI theme to draw it's widgets. However, you can theme your chat sessions (best example of how extremely you can do this is the iChat Kopete theme found on - Apr 21 2004
trillian and sim sucks, try kopete ;) - Apr 21 2004
This Computer

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements 16 comments

Score 50.0%
Apr 20 2004
This would, of course, keep with the silly idea that all programs in KDE are called something with a K. But sure, that would make as much sense as all the programs in Windows being called WinSuchandsuch and GNOME programs being called GnoThingie and Mac OS programs being called MacStuff... But of course, those exist, so let's just do that in stead of being inventive... Thanks for your time, and sorry for that rant, I just think it's silly that I have to keep pointing it out ;) - Apr 21 2004
I just noticed, the icon it's asking for is mycomputer, which doesn't exist. The icon kcmsystem (which I suspect is the same icon) does, and on all systems (and most icon sets) ;) And thanks for the kudos :) - Apr 20 2004
Well, it does reffer to the computer it's running on, so maybe This Computer? As opposed to any remote computer you might connect to? - Apr 20 2004
My Login Manager

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements 123 comments

Score 50.0%
Mar 24 2004
Wouldn't it be possible to take the themed greeter drawing routines in this, and replace the greeter in kdm with it, and thus have all the security and so on of the old, stable code, but with a theme engine? - Apr 21 2004
Thanks for the suggestion, but it's a problem because I actually use arts...

But apart from that, it's not just arts, I also tried simply playing a sound using the 'play' command, and that also didn't work, so whatever it's doing is denying me access to sound altogether. - Apr 21 2004
I have installed this, and also made it work nicely :) I even made a bit of a theme for it and it looks all nice and stuff ;)

However, one small problem I have before I can switch over to this... My sound seems to die as a result of MDM. I get a permission denied on my /dev/sound, and it works just fine with kdm, gdm and mdkkdm (I'm on Mandrake 10, with alsa). Anyone else have this problem, and possibly a solution? - Apr 08 2004
Ad Reinhardt Splash

KDE 3.x Splash Screens 4 comments

Score 50.0%
Apr 20 2004
From the horse's mouth, so to speak ;)

The artwork seems to be very slightly tilting to the left.

The icons are really designed for a light background... Maybe making the background white in stead of black would work better?

And a question: Is this really for 3.2? It looks rather more like a 3.1 splash to me... (the standard engine...) - Apr 20 2004
Rectangular KDE start/menu button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements 47 comments

Score 50.0%
Jun 29 2004 possible to make the Kicker show labels under/above/next to the existing buttons, in the same manner as the toolbars? That would seem to make more sense to me, if we are going to be changing stuff. Maybe even to make it possible to enable/disable that particular feature on a per-button-category basis (as in KMenu, Browser button, Launcher...)? - Apr 20 2004
Though I'm not sure I aggree with this sentiment (I know it's irony, which is what I'm not so much in agreement with), I would like to reiterate all the previous discussions, which, in essense, mostly ends with people more or less agreeing that it's a silly discussion.

That said, I would probably agree that this particular thing is a bit too far. We already have problems (I would post a link here, but the survey title escapes me) with KDE being too windows-liiking and not enough widndows-like for switching users, so that they try doing things in the windows way, and failing because KDE does it differently.

The survey was posted on the dot some months or a year ago... Anyone remember it? - Apr 07 2004
Edit as Root

Dolphin Service Menus 44 comments

Score 50.0%
Jul 04 2004
I would absolutely second this. A category for this in the Actions submenu would make sense to me (I was actually just flipping through the messages here before posting something akin to what is written above before doing it myself ;) ). Without separating the Actions menu into sections, it will very easily become very cluttered... And these sections would best be thought out by, say, the KDE Usability group :) - Apr 14 2004
Kontact Crystal SVG - Vertical

KDE 3.x Splash Screens 5 comments

Score 50.0%
Apr 11 2004
While it is true that there isn't actually a KDE logo on this, the Crystal look itself is rather unique and thus says "This is KDE". I know that there are Crystal like icons for other OSes and desktops, but Crystal itself is rather unique in its pseudo-minimalist look (where other similar sets are more naturalistic). - Apr 11 2004

Karamba & Superkaramba 10 comments

Score 50.0%
Apr 08 2004
This is true, however this is KDE-Look, a place where you go to get stuff to make your desktop look good (which is also what Karamba is for), if you simply wish something like this to make life easier, you should in stead make a plugin that would plug into Kicker (or similar), as this would be faster and less intrusive.

Karamba is supposed to be pretty eyecandy, not practical. There are other things for that. - Apr 08 2004
The Reinhardt Icon Set

Icon Sub-Sets 85 comments

Score 58.0%
Aug 09 2006
Well, there's always the ksvg channel on :) But, a few problems we've encountered are present mainly in icons created with Sodipodi and InkScape, due to their precision (they have scientific notation on some attributes, which breaks the current ksvg, but which has been fixed in CVS) and other small things. Really, there should be noting specific about it, but for actually using the SVG files as icons, have a look at where there's info on how to make themes that accept the files. - Apr 02 2004
That's a very good point, I will get onto this, after fixing some of the problems with the icons in SVG mode (which, by the way, almost works now ;) I'm working closely together with the ksvg people, who are happy to help (Great work people!)). Reinhardt should show more colour in other places than the icons, because even if subdued, it is there :) New Reinhardt wallpaper will come sometime either later today or sometime tomorrow :) - Apr 02 2004
Kontact Splash

KDE 3.x Splash Screens 5 comments

Score 50.0%
Apr 02 2004
Hehe, well the idea is good ;) I should say, though, that the picture looks very grainy, which is of course never a good thing for splash screens (first impressions and such)... A bit of work on that and you will have yourself a very pleasant splash screen :) - Apr 02 2004